Roy Giles takes up guestbook spamming
I guess the big boys have shot him down one too many times for mail spamming, so now he’s into guestbook spamming. And he goes for sites that are naturally positive towards preachers - other Christian sites.
He’s currently got one of his sites hosted on what I assume is his broadband net connection:
67.166.241.132
Update, August 1, 2005: It’s off that IP address. Currently on Netfirms - 64.34.66.18.
Search for roygiles.org on Google, and you’ll find lots of guestbooks he’s posted on.
I’ve come across some people before who say they’re in the ministry and have the ethics of alleycats. This guy is a good number two on my list of top unethical people in the Christian ministry. Shame on you, Roy!
For more back story on Roy Giles
Before you read this, let me tell you the story about him and the spamhuntress server. He had his site on the same server, and before the webhost could figure out he was a spammer, the IP number got blacklisted at Spamhaus. It got sorted quickly when he was booted by the webhost and Spamhaus released the block.
Iknowwhatimdoing
Spam Kings
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419eater
July 29th, 2005 at 4:30 pm
Seems he is a bit smarter than the usual spammer if he is actually targeting to other Christian sites. But no less slimy.
July 30th, 2005 at 3:54 am
I’ve seen others do exactly what he’s doing. And I’m torn as to how spammy it is. But with him there’s no doubt. He doesn’t engage the locals in conversation, he just pastes his whole long spam e-mail into the form and clicks on submit.
I’d say if you write individual posts, on subject, it’s OK. But if you paste the same message into lots of places, it’s spam.
And for a preacher to spam at all, means he’s unethical and should not be supported. It doesn’t really matter if the ministry he describes is worthwhile. He’s dragging the name of Jesus through the mud by being a spammer. That he IS a spammer has been amply documented, well before he started signing guestbooks.
July 30th, 2005 at 11:07 pm
It just disgusts me… what would Jesus say?
July 31st, 2005 at 7:20 pm
Well, Peter, Jesus would probably say something in Aramaic!
July 31st, 2005 at 9:58 pm
I still consider it borderline spam if someone posts short on topic posts all the time to many different sites. If the posts are not really informational or useful but are on topic, that is just a spammer doing a better job that most people won’t notice or consider spam. The problem is when you get into this area it is very grey, what you consider spam might not be by many other people. So while I hate to see this kind unless it is really bad, I just ignore it.
August 2nd, 2005 at 6:32 pm
The issue isn’t Christianity, Jesus Christ but spamming.
Spammers spam. If you’re sending/posting/linking via false pretense — forcing content on someone who has not expressed prior interest in what you have to print/link/copy, and/or even gone so far as to refuse to stop your activity after someone tries to ask you to (if/when they can locate who to contact), that’s SPAM.
About spammers and their crud, spam, I DO notice that spammers now target certain themed sites (no surprise there)…as in, the porno spammers search out and target conservative sites, etc. I had a remaining few threads on a site that remained open for trackbacks/comments (now no longer), and, among those left available to whomever, the ONLY ONE that was repeatedly spammed by porno spammers and gambling spammers and all that crap was one that had “RNC” in the title and thread content.
My little test case…proven: spammers aren’t random so much as some people try to suggest they are in who/how they spam with what, but are relentless in targeting others.
About this one spammer, this thread, anyone can call themselves anything and spammers always do (call themselves whatever/anything that suits their compulsions). That a spammer is targeting Christian sites under the ruse of being “a minister” is moreorless the same as someone fancying themselves “a pharmacy/pharmacist” spamming about drugs, etc.
It’s not a bad taste Christian, it’s just another ripoff action by another bane Spammer. But they’re still damned, just to add a bit of theology here.
August 5th, 2005 at 5:56 pm
All spammers are slime, but when you are supposed to be someone with morals, such as a Christian minister, it sure shows he doesn’t.
Most spammers we deal with are more random than what you describe. Some likely are doing this, but most of them are not.
August 25th, 2005 at 7:07 am
Believe me, Roy Giles is a master scammer. He has been doing this for a lot of years. His own church and pastor will not support his ministry and they do not acknowledge him as a member of their church.
March 25th, 2006 at 10:46 am
All spammers are slime, but when you are supposed to be someone with morals, such as a Christian minister, it sure shows he doesn’t.
Most spammers we deal with are more random than what you describe. Some likely are doing this, but most of them are not.
March 25th, 2006 at 10:58 am
Sawa:
I guess that makes you slime, then? I deleted your spammy link…
In fact, he’s not a one time spammer. Stay tuned for a brand new post about him…
March 25th, 2006 at 11:10 am
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April 8th, 2006 at 2:48 pm
Had a badly spammed, otherwise non-used guestbook which I set up expressly as a guestbook-spammer honeypot. Here’s what I learned:
- Spammers use proxies, so blocking IP’s is useless
- NOINDEX, NOFOLLOW html-Meta is useless
- Spam bots are used a lot
- Double-opt-in email verification works!
- Graphic digit verification works!
I’ve plunked my ongoing anti-spam experiences including code snippets into http://www.romanvirdi.com/guestbook